I am still trying to find a veggie dog to replace my beloved Morningstar Farms hot dogs (that have been discontinued). I got these at Wal-Mart. Their packaging looks very much LIKE Morningstar Farms products (and was right beside them on the freezer shelf- deceiving!) Instructions are to boil these “dogs”, but after I boiled them, I then pan-fried them a little with some cooking spray. I served them with some mashed potatoes and red cabbage (a favorite German meal Toby’s mother made us one time- the dogs are in place of sausages). These were good! No, they aren’t MSF-good, but they are edible and actually kind of tasty. I will buy them again. And for those of you watching your points, they are 2 points+ each. Not bad!